The #1 Weight Loss Method: Calorie Counting? – BEXLIFE

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Michael: What I would try to do is get people
to associate weight loss with health. Rebekah: You’re just getting way too radical. That’s too much. Weight loss and health? Michael: Associated with health. Yeah, they’re not really connected, are
they? Rebekah: We just shot two videos on the 80/10/10
diet. We talked a lot about veganism in these videos. The first was, are people meant to be vegan,
which I think that people are going to be surprised by your answer. Michael: Yeah, which is, no. But I would love to see everybody be vegan. Rebekah: What? Spoiler! Watch the video anyway. You just ruined – now, no one is going to
go over. No, now they will, coming from a 20-year vegan. But this one, we touched on in the podcast
that we did for you and the short excerpt that we did for my channel a few weeks back
or several weeks back now about calories in/calories and the true formula for weight loss because
a lot of people are coming to me for weight loss.

They want to know and they want quick weight
loss, they want weight loss that lasts though. And I keep getting this comment that it really
just comes down to calories in and calories out. And I want to talk too about why that’s
a problematic statement. Rebekah: It could be defined as a lot of things. I mean we talked about like what’s the definition
of vegan? What’s the definition of 80/10/10? What are the things involved? What is the source of calories that are coming
in? It’s the problem. I’ve seen a lot of people really frustrated
and struggled trying to exercise their way out of a bad diet. I mean to some degree it works because you
create such a demand on your body that it will start to burn fatty tissue and things
like that. It will use calories. But it’s not only that – I like to think
of it as like nutrients in, nutrients in like that’s the way people should be thinking. You should be trying to get nutrients from
your food and not be eating foods that are so hollow in nutrients but excess in calories
that it’s storing itself all over your body because it can’t be eliminated and that
you need to then power walk through the park to try to like count your calories out.

A Twinkie is going to be a certain amount
of calories and it’s going to clog up your intestines and leave streaks of crap all over
the place. You can’t exercise your way out of that. Weight loss for me, what I would try to do
is get people to associate weight loss with health. Weight loss can be achieved in many different
ways. Rebekah: OK. You’re just getting way too radical. That’s too much. Weight loss and health? Michael: Associated with health. Yeah, they’re not really connected, are
they? People would come in – like I would try
to explain to some people that would ask me like what I do and how I do it and I would
say, the person that’s trying to work through some serious disease and getting into diet
and fitness and cleansing, colonics, and so on, all these things, is the same concept
as the person that’s trying to lose weight to look good in a bikini.

We’re working on the same principles. And what’s the nature of the calories? That’s the question. There are people that – I mean age sets
in. I gained like 15 pounds within three weeks
of my 38th birthday. I just started to gain weight and I was like,
“Oh well, that’s interesting.” Rebekah: Do you believe that though? Do you think that age is a contributing factor
to weight gain or how easily you gain weight? Michael: It depends on what’s – yeah,
especially when people are not being active though.

I lost all that weight, not intentionally
but because I just … Rebekah: I think that’s a big asterisk especially
when people are not being active. Michael: Well, listen. When somebody is 45 and they’re not being
active, they can start to gain weight from eating the same foods that they’ve been
eating in the last 20 years. Yeah, your metabolism slows down a bit. You can rev it up though. Rebekah: See, I put that statement in the
same category as I’ve had a bunch of babies so it’s harder for me to lose weight or
like stuff like that. Please, no hate comments about that statement. Michael: I have an interesting relationship
to weight when it comes to women because women’s bodies are different than men and there are
hormones in play and there’s fat needed for these hormones. And sometimes the idea of what we want and
what our body really does to create balance, they are not in alignment and it turns into
just desire and a mental game. Rebekah: That’s an interesting statement,
what we want and what out body needs are – can be very different things oftentimes especially
being a woman because I don’t want to gain 40 pounds during my pregnancy but it’s probably
what I need to.

Michael: Yeah, it’s probably what needs
to happen. I remember I had a thought. I was working with some women. They were – I mean this all comes down to
aesthetics. They were fine like they looked great. They were fine. But they had this vision of what they needed
to – how much weight they needed to lose and what they needed to look like. And at first, I was working on them – working
with them with weight loss stuff. And then I thought to myself, I thought, “Why
am I going to take part in this war, their personal war against the innate wisdom of
their own body?” Like I’m not doing that anymore.

It just doesn’t make sense. And I know they want to look a certain way
but that’s not how I’m going to serve anybody, helping somebody lose weight that
way. Rebekah: Getting back to the calories in/calories
out then, if you deprive yourself of calories and you overwork yourself with exercise, you
will lose weight. The main problem is fill in the blank. Michael: It’s a source of what the calories
are. I mean somebody could eat protein and greens
and exercise a lot and be very lean and it could be a very healthy thing. It could be fine. But the idea of like I have to exercise my
calories off, generally means that somebody is not taking in calories that are nutrient-dense
and calories that leave their body very easily.

You could eat a lot of calories – you’re
not going to get fat from eating sweet potatoes. You’re not. You eat bacon cheeseburgers and you’re going
to feel like you have to go to the gym because it’s going to sit in your gut and it’s
going to line your arteries and it’s going start to store itself around your waist and
you’re going to be like, “Oh shit! I need to rev up my system now.” Rebekah: Have you ever calculated how many
calories you eat on an average day? Michael: No, never. I eat what I need when I need it. And I’ll know what’s happening.

If I eat late at night and I start to gain
weight and whatever and I go, oh yeah. And usually, it’s parallel with not feeling
great like if I’ve been working too much and eating too late at night or whatever and
I go, “Yeah, this isn’t serving me.” So then I just adapt to it. But no, I don’t ever try to like count calories. Rebekah: I have. I’ve never calculated my activity calories
as much but I did it for a very short amount of time. It’s just too – I mean it’s sketchy
even with the caloric values of foods because they can be way off especially when you’re
talking about packaged foods.

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But I’m often in excess of 3,500 calories. Michael: This idea – I was just thinking
about the psychology behind this idea calories in/calories out, it creates this relationship
towards what you’re eating as something that you really need to work toward to eliminate,
almost like as if it’s a bad thing, almost as if your food is not serving you if you
have to worry about doing that. Like why are you worried about your food? Nobody does that. Indigenous people don’t do that. They just live their lives and eat and they’re
happy and they’re fine. Nobody is like – it’s this weird psychology.

It’s like if I eat this then I have to think
about this and now I have to work out really hard to get calories in/calories out. And it’s like, what is that? What is that weird relationship? Rebekah: I mean I’ve told people to keep
a food diary not for the purposes of knowing how many calories they’re getting and how
many they’re working off. It’s just to have an understanding of what
they’re actually eating because I think people don’t – they don’t know – they
don’t realize what they’re putting inside their mouths during the day especially with
snacking. That’s a huge problem.

But I don’t think that weighing yourself
or counting calories ever serves you even in the short term, even if you’re getting
results from it. I think that it messes with your psychology
and it places – it puts you in this weird relationship, this weird battle with food
and the way that you move. It’s just nothing good can come of it. It doesn’t form good habits. So, don’t do that from the very beginning. Don’t do that from the very beginning. No counting of any of those things. I got on the scale yesterday just because
I was curious how much weight I gained during pregnancy because someone asked me in the
comments of my video. I was like, “You know what? I’m going to figure – I’m going to see.” And now I know. Michael: Yeah. I think people should look at values. People should look at values when they have
health concerns. Other than that, live your life and have fun
and don’t be like trying to take a quarter of an inch off of your knee because it’s
ridiculous. Rebekah: I did look at my knee fat the other
day though.

I bent over only because they are getting
older like my legs – I think women have different things that age faster like the
neck, the hands, the knees, these are like the first things to go in a woman. So, I bent over and I was flexing my quadriceps
and I was – this is so ridiculous. I can’t even believe I’m admitting this
on video. But I was like, “My knees have gotten a
little bit chubby and a little bit older looking.

I got to cover those up.” I’ll wear bikini and knee pads. Michael: People are going to take this the
wrong way. I understand that like I get that part of
it. Like I get the – of course, we all have
a little bit of vanity because we want to look good and we want to feel sexy. We want – so of course, we want to look
good. I’m not saying everybody should just like
effort and not worry about their bodies. I mean body sculpting is cool. It’s fitness. It’s like I get like the goal setting and
stuff like that. It’s just the – I’ve encountered a bit
of the obsessive part of it that that’s where I get turned off and I go, “You guys
need to be approaching your diets differently.” Like these clients that come in and ask for
that kind of thing, I’m like diets just need to serve you.

Rebekah: It was like a curiosity like I looked
at it and I was like, “Huh!” And then it was a little bit shocking. It’s an interesting thing to see your body
age especially when you feel a certain way like I feel 25. I’ll probably always feel 25. I don’t feel – I mean physically, I feel
that way. Mentally – so to see things happening and
it’s like what’s up with that? It’s like almost like your body is betraying
you. It feels so strange. Anyway … Michael: Our bodies are like the best puppies
in the world. They’re such our best friend. They always try to bring us to balance. They always do what they need to do.

Rebekah: Let me tell you. Have five kids and you’ll see. My body is mad at me. Michael: It is, huh? Well, you treat it very well. Rebekah: I try to. So, we are nixing – we are saying no to
calories in/calories out. It’s a thing but it’s not a good thing. Michael: Yeah. And I think it’s a bad concept. I think it creates a negative relationship
to the food we’re eating. The fact that we think that we need to like
somehow work it off. And I think if we’re eating high quality
nutrient-dense food that’s serving us, our body will find its natural weight and that
we need to body sculpt in those weight just on our level of exercise.

I mean if we want to be like – if we want
to hit it hard at the gym, that’s awesome. But worrying about the types of food you eat,
calories in/calories out, usually suggest that we’re eating something that’s not
serving our bodies. Rebekah: Yeah, it’s hyper simplistic and
it’s not addressing health holistically. It’s just looking at something that’s
so simple and has nothing to do with nutrition, has nothing to do with all our other systems. So … Michael: I’ve seen that struggle. People trying to exercise their way out of
a bad diet plateauing all the time, it’s just like I’ve seen that struggle. Keep eating food that’s making you fat then
trying to stay ahead of it with exercise, life takes over. You’re going to miss some days at the gym. You’re going to get older. It’s going to catch up. Better to eat nutrient-dense food and let
it serve you to the end. Rebekah: Which reminds me, I have to cancel
my gym membership that I’ve been paying for, for about 12 months and I have not gone.

So, leave – I want everyone, my people or
your people, whoever is watching this video to leave comments below on that. They can tell my why it’s still calories
in/calories out because I will get people who will say that. But yeah. Michael: Well, let them say it. Rebekah: We have lots more where this came
from including topics on veganism, health, and even recipes that you are surely going
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